Francis Henry Percival Glanville
Male, #13711, born 9 May 1903, died circa August 1981
Birth, Marriage and Death information
Francis Henry Percival Glanville was born on 9 May 1903 in Gillingham, KEN, ENG, registered Medway.
He married
Gertrude May D. Blyth circa November 1929 in Medway registered, KEN, ENG, (when age calculated as ~26.)
He died circa August 1981 in Chatham registered, KEN, ENG, (when age calculated as ~78.)
Address(es), Census(es) and Occupations
- Francis Henry Percival Glanville appeared on the census of 2 April 1911 in 25 Exmouth Terrace, Medway Road, Gillingham, KEN, ENG; recorded age 7, living with his parents.
- As of January 1931, Francis Henry Percival Glanville and Gertrude May D. Blyth lived at 45 Broad Walk, Rainham, KEN, ENG, at baptism of son Edward.
- Francis was a Ships Cook R.N. at baptism of son Edward on 16 January 1931.
- Francis was a Cook R.N. at baptism of son Douglas on 1 May 1932.
- Francis was a ships cook, R.N. at baptism of daur Jean on 18 April 1934.
- As of 18 April 1934, Francis Henry Percival Glanville and Gertrude May D. Blyth lived at 8 Brown Street, Rainham, KEN, ENG, at baptism of daur Jean.
- Francis was a ships cook R.N. HMS Fitsroy CMX 57522 on 29 September 1939.
- As of 29 September 1939, Francis Henry Percival Glanville and Gertrude May D. Blyth lived at 30 Queen Street, Rochester, KEN, ENG.
George Glanville
Male, #13712, born 10 May 1903, died circa August 1974
Birth, Marriage and Death information
George Glanville was born on 10 May 1903 in Cardiff, GLA, WLS, registered Cardiff.
He married
Gladys Sweet circa August 1925 in Cardiff registered, GLA, WLS, (when age calculated as ~22) also registered q4 same district.
He died circa August 1974 in South Glamorgan registered, GLA, WLS, (when age calculated as ~71.)
Address(es), Census(es) and Occupations
- George Glanville appeared on the census of 2 April 1911 in 118 Court Road, Grange Town, Cardiff, GLA, WLS; recorded age 7, living with his parents.
Harry Redvers Glanville
Male, #13713, born April 1903, died April 1904
Birth, Marriage and Death information
Harry Redvers Glanville was born in April 1903 in Truro registered, CON, ENG.
He died in April 1904 in Truro registered, CON, ENG, (when age calculated as ~1); recorded age 0.
He was buried on 5 April 1904 at Perranzabuloe, CON, ENG.
Jane Glanville
Female, #13714, born circa May 1903, died 1949
Birth, Marriage and Death information
Jane Glanville was born circa May 1903 in Tunstall, DUR, ENG, registered Sunderland.
She married
Alfred Shellard circa May 1925 in Sunderland registered, DUR, ENG, (when age calculated as ~22.)
She died in 1949 in Surrey S.W. registered, SRY, ENG, (when age calculated as ~46); recorded age 45.
Alternate Names
Her married name was Shellard.
Other Information
Jane and
Alfred Shellard had 2 sons births registered Sunderland, 1 daughter & son registered Guildford and 1 son registered Surrey SW.
Address(es), Census(es) and Occupations
- Jane Glanville appeared on the census of 2 April 1911 in 14 Cornelia Street, New Silksworth, DUR, ENG; recorded age 8, living with her father and stepmothers.
Joseph Richards Glanville
Male, #13715, born 16 May 1903, died circa November 1979
Birth, Marriage and Death information
Joseph Richards Glanville was born on 16 May 1903 in St Columb Major registered, CON, ENG, mother maiden named Glanville, or name omitted.
He married
Louisa Maud Margaret Wellington circa November 1930 in St Germans registered, CON, ENG, (when age calculated as ~27) Louisa marrying in surname Jones.
He died circa November 1979 in Liskeard registered, CON, ENG, (when age calculated as ~76.)
Address(es), Census(es) and Occupations
- Joseph was a steam engine driver on 29 September 1939.
- As of 29 September 1939, Joseph Richards Glanville and Louisa Maud Margaret Wellington lived at 78 West Street, St Germans R.D., CON, ENG, with them widowed William Wellington born 1854, old age pensioner.
Lily Ethel Glanville
Female, #13716, born 6 May 1903, died August 1993
Birth, Marriage and Death information
Lily Ethel Glanville was born on 6 May 1903 in Blackfriars, LND, ENG, registered Southwark.
She was baptized on 20 May 1903 in Christchurch parish church, Southwark, SRY, ENG.
She married
William J. Roffe circa February 1926 in Greenwich registered, KEN, ENG, (when age calculated as ~22.)
She died in August 1993 in Swale registered, KEN, ENG, (when age calculated as 90.)
Alternate Names
Her married name was Roffe. She was also known as Lilly recorded in 1911 census.
Address(es), Census(es) and Occupations
- Lily Ethel Glanville appeared on the census of 2 April 1911 in 51 Elliotts Row, Southwark, SRY, ENG; recorded age 8, living with her parents.
Marjorie Glanville
Female, #13717, born 29 April 1903, died circa May 1982
Birth, Marriage and Death information
Marjorie Glanville was born on 29 April 1903 in Banwell, SOM, ENG.
She was baptized on 22 August 1903 in the Parish Church, Banwell, SOM, ENG, parents Charles Harding Glanville and Sarah Emma.
She married
Percy Hartnell circa November 1935 in Exeter, St Thomas registered, DEV, ENG, (when age calculated as ~32.)
She died circa May 1982 in Torbay registered, DEV, ENG, (when age calculated as ~79.)
Alternate Names
Her married name was Hartnell.
Address(es), Census(es) and Occupations
- Marjorie Glanville appeared on the census of 2 April 1911 in Towerhead, Banwell, SOM, ENG; recorded age 7, living with her parents.
Sarah Glanville
Female, #13718, born between 1904 and 1905
Birth, Marriage and Death information
Sarah Glanville was born between 1904 and 1905 in Cleator Moor, CUL, ENG.
Address(es), Census(es) and Occupations
- Sarah Glanville appeared on the census of 2 April 1911 in 165 Ennerdale Road, Cleator Moor, CUL, ENG; recorded age 6, living with her widowed mother.
Olive Vine Glanville
Female, #13719, born circa May 1903
Birth, Marriage and Death information
Olive Vine Glanville was born circa May 1903 in Penzance, CON, ENG, registered Penzance.
She was baptized on 26 May 1903 in St John, Penzance, CON, ENG, parents William John and Millie.
She married
Carl J. Villeroy on 16 May 1924 in Highland Park, MI, USA, (when age calculated as ~21) his age recorded 26, hers 22. His parents Leo and Florence, hers John and Millie Moffatt.
She married
Wally Walruth.
Alternate Names
She was also known as Vine O. recorded at marriage. Her married name was Villeroy. Her married name was Walruth.
Other Information
Olive was married 2 times.
Olive Vine Glanville immigrated before 1924 to the USA.
Address(es), Census(es) and Occupations
- Olive Vine Glanville appeared on the census of 2 April 1911 in 124 & 125 Falmouth Road, Redruth, CON, ENG; recorded age 8, living with her parents.
- She and Carl J. Villeroy appeared on the census of 1930 in Highland Park, MI, USA; his age recorded 32, hers 26.
Phyllis Glanville
Female, #13720, born circa May 1903
Birth, Marriage and Death information
Phyllis Glanville was born circa May 1903 in North Witchford registered, CAM, ENG.
James Glanville
Male, #13721, born circa August 1903, died circa February 1904
Birth, Marriage and Death information
James Glanville was born circa August 1903 in Whitehaven registered, CUL, ENG, mother maiden named Glanville, or name omitted.
He died circa February 1904 in Whitehaven registered, CUL, ENG, (when age calculated as ~0); recorded age 0.
John Glanville
Male, #13722, born 18 June 1903, died between 1942 and 1944
Birth, Marriage and Death information
John Glanville was born on 18 June 1903 in Liverpool, LAN, ENG, Registered q3 West Derby. His date of birth given as nephew to George Glanville's enlistment in military records.
He was baptized on 29 June 1903 in Liverpool, LAN, ENG, parents named John and Margaret Glanville.
He died between 1942 and 1944.
Address(es), Census(es) and Occupations
- John Glanville appeared on the census of 2 April 1911 in 31 Stanhope Street, Toxteth, Liverpool, LAN, ENG; recorded age 8, living with his father and stepmother.
Nancy Glanville
Female, #13723, born 6 August 1903, died 27 January 1983
Birth, Marriage and Death information
Nancy Glanville was born on 6 August 1903 in Pancras registered, MDX, ENG.
She was baptized on 15 August 1903 in St Luke's church, Oseney Crescent, Camden, MDX, ENG.
She died on 27 January 1983 in Cheltenham registered, GLS, ENG, (when age calculated as 79.)
Her estate was probated on 29 March 1983 indexed:
GLANVILL, Nancy of The Granleys Griffiths Av Cheltenham died 27 January 1983 Administration with Will Winchester 29 March £2271.
Alternate Names
She was also known as Glanvill.
Address(es), Census(es) and Occupations
- Nancy Glanville appeared on the census of 2 April 1911 in 36 Primrose Mansions, Battersea Park, SRY, ENG; recorded age 7, living with her parents.
- As of 29 September 1939, Nancy Glanville lived at The Grange, South Cambridgeshire R.D., CAM, ENG, living with her widowed mother.
- Nancy was fruit and poultry on 29 September 1939.
Gertrude Margaret Tank
Female, #13724, born before 1901
Birth, Marriage and Death information
Alternate Names
Her married name was Rule.
Dorothy May Glencoe Glanville
Female, #13725, born circa August 1903
Birth, Marriage and Death information
Dorothy May Glencoe Glanville was born circa August 1903 in Barnet, HRT, ENG, registered Barnet.
She was baptized on 23 August 1903 in Christchurch church, Barnet, HRT, ENG.
She married
Sidney William Morris Church on 25 July 1925 in St Albans church, Fulham, MDX, ENG, (when age calculated as ~21) registered Fulham.
His age recorded 31, hers 21. Fathers named William Albert Church grocers manager and John Glanville labourer.
Alternate Names
She was also known as Glenny Glanville recorded in 1911 census. Her married name was Church.
Address(es), Census(es) and Occupations
- Dorothy May Glencoe Glanville appeared on the census of 2 April 1911 in 40 Vanderbuilt Road, Earlsfield, Wandsworth, SRY, ENG; recorded age 7, living with her parents.
- Dorothy was at school on 2 April 1911.
- As of 25 July 1925, Dorothy May Glencoe Glanville lived at 34 Yeldham Road, Fulham, MDX, ENG.
Vie Glanville
Female, #13726, born between 1880 and 1881
Birth, Marriage and Death information
Vie Glanville was born between 1880 and 1881 in Jamaica probably.
Other Information
Vie Glanville immigrated on 2 June 1908 to Ellis Island, New York, NY, USA, from Manchester, Jamaica on the vessage Prinz Joachim.
Evelyn May Glanville
Female, #13727, born July 1903
Birth, Marriage and Death information
Evelyn May Glanville was born in July 1903 in Newlyn East, CON, ENG, registered St Columb. 31 May 1903 recorded in 1939 Register.
She was baptized on 2 August 1903 in Newlyn East, CON, ENG, parents Henry and Sibella Jane.
She married
Wilfrid Henry Way on 8 August 1928 in Newlyn, CON, ENG, (when age calculated as 25) registered St Columb. His age 26, hers 25. Fathers named Henry Way, Henry Glanville.
Alternate Names
She was also known as May recorded in 1911 census. Her married name was Way.
Address(es), Census(es) and Occupations
- Evelyn May Glanville appeared on the census of 2 April 1911 in Traffle, Newlyn East, CON, ENG; recorded age 7, living with her parents.
- As of 29 September 1939, Evelyn May Glanville lived at Trecowick Farm, Truro R.D., CON, ENG, living with her parents, married.
John Henry Glanville
Male, #13728, born 21 June 1903, died 19 September 1942
Birth, Marriage and Death information
John Henry Glanville was born on 21 June 1903 in Shepherds Bush, MDX, ENG, registered q3 1903 Fulham.
He was baptized on 10 July 1903 in St Saviour's church, Shepherds Bush, MDX, ENG.
He married
Ivy English circa February 1937 in Chelmsford registered, ESS, ENG, (when age calculated as ~33.)
He died on 19 September 1942 in Surrey N.E. registered, SRY, ENG, (when age calculated as 39); recorded age 39.
He was buried in 1943 at Kingston Cemetery, Kingston upon Thames, SRY, ENG.
Other Information
John and
Ivy English had no children with birth registrations in England nor Wales.
Address(es), Census(es) and Occupations
- John Henry Glanville appeared on the census of 2 April 1911 in 35 Mill Street, Kingston upon Thames, SRY, ENG; recorded age 7, living with his parents.
- As of 29 September 1939, John Henry Glanville and Ivy English lived at 107 Ellerton Road, Surbiton, SRY, ENG.
- John was a bakers roundsman on 29 September 1939.
Maggie Sarah Elizabeth Glanville
Female, #13729, born 6 August 1903, died June 1978
Birth, Marriage and Death information
Maggie Sarah Elizabeth Glanville was born on 6 August 1903 in Clapton, MDX, ENG, registered Hackney.
She was baptized on 8 November 1908 in St Michael and All Angels, Walthamstow, ESS, ENG, parents named George and Maggie.
She died in June 1978 in Waltham Forest registered, ESS, ENG, (when age calculated as 74.)
Address(es), Census(es) and Occupations
- Maggie Sarah Elizabeth Glanville appeared on the census of 2 April 1911 in 46 Queen Elizabeth Road, Walthamstow, ESS, ENG; recorded age 7, living with her parents.
- Maggie was at school on 2 April 1911.
- As of 29 September 1939, Maggie Sarah Elizabeth Glanville lived at 35 Claude Road, Leyton, ESS, ENG, living with her mother.
- Maggie was a railway clerk (comtometer) on 29 September 1939.
Richard Glanville
Male, #13730, born 30 June 1903, died circa February 1973
Birth, Marriage and Death information
Richard Glanville was born on 30 June 1903 in Redruth registered, CON, ENG, registered q3 1903, mother maiden named Trythall.
He died circa February 1973 in Kerrier (Helston) registered, CON, ENG, (when age calculated as ~69.)
Address(es), Census(es) and Occupations
- Richard was a tin miner on 29 September 1939.
- As of 29 September 1939, Richard Glanville lived at Prospidnick, CON, ENG, living with 1871 born widowed Annie Davies, suspected to be his mother.
Dorothy Glanville
Female, #13731, born between 1901 and 1902, died circa May 1903
Birth, Marriage and Death information
Dorothy Glanville was born between 1901 and 1902.
She died circa May 1903 in West Ham registered, ESS, ENG; with a recorded age of 1.
Francis Hall
Male, #13732, born between 1831 and 1832
Birth, Marriage and Death information
Address(es), Census(es) and Occupations
- Francis Hall and Tryphena Glanville appeared on the census of 7 April 1861 in Blue Hayes House, Broad Clyst, DEV, ENG; his age recorded 27, hers 29. Visiting was 90 year old Jamaican born widow Elizabeth Glanville.
- Francis was a farmer of 150 acres on 7 April 1861.
- He and Tryphena Glanville appeared on the census of 3 April 1881 in 15 Pulteney Street, Bathwick, SOM, ENG; both with recorded ages of 49. 6 year old daughter Florence with them.
Mary Ann Cookson
Female, #13733, born between 1799 and 1800, died 9 March 1875
Birth, Marriage and Death information
Mary Ann Cookson was born between 1799 and 1800 in London, MDX, ENG.
She married
Mark Glanville, son of
John Glanville and
Grace Lane, circa November 1840 in Honiton registered, DEV, ENG, reported in Taunton Courier and Western Advertiser 16 Dec 1840:
At Honiton, Mark Glanville, Esq., of Melton Pahanbury, Devon, to Mary Ann, daughter of the late J. Cookson, Esq., of Clapham.
She died on 9 March 1875 in 43 Black Bog Road, Exeter, DEV, ENG; registered Exeter, recorded age 78.
Her estate was probated on 5 June 1875 indexed as:
1875 GLANVILLE Mary Ann (wife of Mark Glanville) formerly of Fulham, Middlesex but late of 43 Black Boy Road, Exeter who died on 9 March 1875 at 43 Black Boy Road. Will proved at Exeter on 5 June by the said Mark Glanville, gentleman of 43 Black Boy Road, the sole executor, under £1500.
Alternate Names
Her married name was Glanville.
Address(es), Census(es) and Occupations
- Mary Ann Cookson and Mark Glanville appeared on the census of 6 June 1841 in Belle Vue, Gittisham, DEV, ENG; both with recorded age 30.
- She and Mark Glanville appeared on the census of 30 March 1851 in Herritage Villa, Lillie Road, Fulham, MDX, ENG; his recorded age 40, hers 45.
- She and Mark Glanville appeared on the census of 2 April 1871 in 4 Devonshire Place, Union Road, Exeter St Sidwell, DEV, ENG; his recorded age 60, hers 71.
Mary Elizabeth
Female, #13734, born before 1870
Birth, Marriage and Death information
Alternate Names
Her married name was Glanville.
Elizabeth Parkin
Female, #13735, born between 1807 and 1808
Birth, Marriage and Death information
Alternate Names
Her married name was Glanville. She was also known as Elizabeth Perkins recorded in 1841 census.
Address(es), Census(es) and Occupations
- Elizabeth Parkin and Thomas Edward Glanville appeared on the census of 6 June 1841 in High Stree, Pembroke Dock, St Mary, Pembroke, PEM, WLS; both with recorded age 30. 15yr old Charlotte Perkins was living with them, born Pembrokeshire.
- Elizabeth was independent on 6 June 1841.
- She and Thomas Edward Glanville appeared on the census of 30 March 1851 in High Street, Pembroke Dock, PEM, WLS; both with recorded age 42. He recorded unmarried, she married with daughter 22 Selina H Parkin with her. Both Thomas and Elizabeth recorded Head of household.
- Elizabeth was housekeeper on 30 March 1851.
- She and Thomas Edward Glanville appeared on the census of 2 April 1871 in High Street, Pembroke St Mary, PEM, WLS; his age recorded 62, hers 63. She recorded as his partner, both unmarried.
- She appeared on the census of 5 April 1891 in 1 High Street, Pembroke St Mary, PEM, WLS; recorded age 70, widowed. Granddaughter Louise Bridge aged 24 born Portsmouth grocers assistant living with her.
male Glanville
Male, #13736, born before 1753
Birth, Marriage and Death information
Male Glanville was born before 1753.
Henry James Glanville J.P.
Male, #13737, born circa August 1844, died 26 February 1931
Birth, Marriage and Death information
Henry James Glanville J.P. was born circa August 1844 in Bethnal Green, MDX, ENG, registered Bethnal Green.
He married
Catherine Bellamy circa May 1875 in Hackney registered, MDX, ENG, (when age calculated as ~30.)
He died on 26 February 1931 in Bayswater, MDX, ENG, (when age calculated as ~86); recorded age 86, registered Paddington.
His estate was probated on 28 March 1931 indexed as:
1931 GLANVILLE Henry James of 25 Belsize Park, Hampstead, Middlesex who died on 26 February 1931 at 74 Lancaster Gate, Bayswater, Middlesex. Probate at London on 28 March to Harry Ernest West, accountant, effects £192-13.
Other Information
Henry and
Catherine Bellamy had no children by the 1911 census.
On 22 February 1906 The London Gazette recorded Henry James Glanville of 2 Foley Avenue, Hampstead Heath, N.W. a banker as partner in the firm of Pinto Leite and Nephews.
On 18 February 1907 The London Gazette recorded Henry James Glanville of 2 Foley Avenue, Hampstead Heath, N.W. a banker as partner in the firm of Pinto Leite and Nephews.
On 21 February 1908 The London Gazette recorded Henry James Glanville of 2 Foley Avenue, Hampstead Heath, N.W. a banker as partner in the firm of Pinto Leite and Nephews.
On 19 February 1909 The London Gazette recorded Henry James Glanville of 2 Foley Avenue, Hampstead Heath, N.W. a banker as partner in the firm of Pinto Leite and Nephews.
On 18 February 1910 The London Gazette recorded Henry James Glanville J.P. of Langham Hotel, London, a banker as partner in the firm of Pinto Leite and Nephews.
On 21 February 1911 The London Gazette recorded Henry James Glanville J.P. of Langham Hotel, London, a banker as partner in the firm of Pinto Leite and Nephews.
On 23 February 1912 The London Gazette recorded Henry James Glanville J.P. of 14 Harley House, Regent's Park, London, N.W., a banker as partner in the firm of Pinto Leite and Nephews.
On 26 February 1913 The London Gazette recorded Henry James Glanville J.P. of 14 Harley House, Regent's Park, London, N.W., a banker as partner in the firm of Pinto Leite and Nephews.
On 23 February 1914 The London Gazette recorded Henry James Glanville J.P. of 14 Harley House, Regent's Park, London, N.W., a banker as partner in the firm of Pinto Leite and Nephews.
On 8 April 1927 The London Gazette listed Notification of Release of Trustees:
LEITE, Jose Pinto, Count dos Olivaes e de Penha Longa, residing at 10, Avenue Hoche, Paris, in the Republic of France, LEITE, Julio Pinto, Count dos Olivaes, residing at Rua do Sacromento a Lapa, Lisbon, in the Republic of Portugal, and GLANVILLE, Henry James, residing at 29, Fitzjohns-avenue, Hampstead, London, carrying on business as FOREIGN BANKERS and MERCHANTS, under the style or firm of PINTO LEITE & NEPHEWS, at 23, Moorgate, London, E.G. 2, also at 38-40, Hardman-street, Manchester, and 19, James-street, Liverpool.
Court—HIGH COURT OF JUSTICE.
No. of Matter—331 of 1926.
Last Day for Receiving Proofs—May 5, 1927.
Name of Trustee and Address—Peat, Sir William Harry, K.B.E., 11, Ironmonger-lane, London, E.C. 2.
GLANVILLE, Henry James (Separate Estate).
Court—HIGH COURT OF JUSTICE.
No. of Matter—331 of 1926.
Last Day for Receiving Proofs—April 28, 1927.
Name of Trustee and Address—Peat, Sir William Harry, K.B.E., 11, Ironmonger-lane, London, E.C. 2.
Address(es), Census(es) and Occupations
- Henry James Glanville J.P. appeared on the census of 30 March 1851 in 1 Prospect Place, Bethnal Green, MDX, ENG; recorded age 6, living with his parents.
- Henry was a scholar at home on 30 March 1851.
- He appeared on the census of 7 April 1861 in Victoria Villoe, Hackney, MDX, ENG; recorded age 16, living with his parents.
- Henry was a commercial clerk on 7 April 1861.
- Henry was a commercial clerk on 2 April 1871.
- He appeared on the census of 2 April 1871 in 2 Lansdown Place, St John, Hackney, MDX, ENG; recorded age 26, living with his parents.
- Henry was manager of banking house on 5 April 1891.
- He and Catherine Bellamy appeared on the census of 5 April 1891 in 37 Warrior Square, Hastings St Mary Magdalene, SSX, ENG; his recorded age 46, hers 40, living in a boarding house.
- He and Catherine Bellamy appeared on the census of 31 March 1901 in Alexander Hotel, Hastings St Mary Magdalene, SSX, ENG; his recorded age 56, hers 50.
- Henry was a banker and general merchant on 31 March 1901.
- Henry was a banker and merchant in the general stockmarket on 2 April 1911.
- He appeared on the census of 2 April 1911 in Manchester, LAN, ENG; recorded age 66, visiting in the Midland Hotel. Married but wife not present.
Rev James Johns
Male, #13738, born between 1831 and 1832
Birth, Marriage and Death information
Address(es), Census(es) and Occupations
- Rev James Johns and Marian Glanville appeared on the census of 5 April 1891 in The Manse, Totnes, DEV, ENG; his age recorded 59, hers 55. Niece Hilda M T Glanville living there. James and Marian's son Whitfield G James was living with them.
Thomas Bates Glanfield
Male, #13739, born 12 June 1796, died before 1808
Birth, Marriage and Death information
Thomas Bates Glanfield was born on 12 June 1796 in Westminster, MDX, ENG.
He was baptized on 29 August 1796 in St Margaret's parish church, St Margaret Street, Westminster, MDX, ENG, Thomas Bates Glanfield S. of Thomas by Jane Maria, born Jun 12th.
He died before 1808; presumed, from baptism of same-named sibling.
Richard Glanfield
Male, #13740, born 24 February 1664
Birth, Marriage and Death information
Richard Glanfield was born on 24 February 1664 in Little Horkesley, ESS, ENG.
He was baptized on 2 March 1664 in Little Horkesley, ESS, ENG, Richard Glanfield, parents Richard and Ellen.